Men's Committee 2022

Men's Club Committee members and their contact email addresses

All communications to the Men's Club should be channeled through the specific emails listed below where possible. For General Men's Club inquirers please email mensclub@cartonhousemembers.com.

Mens Committee 2022

CaptainSheamus Considinecaptain@cartonhousemembers.com
Vice CaptainAllen Corcoranvicecaptain@cartonhousemembers.com
Club SecretaryJohn Ennissecretary@cartonhousemembers.com
TreasurerSeamus Thompsontreasurer@cartonhousemembers.com
Competitions SecretarySeamus Lynchcompetitions@cartonhousemembers.com
Handicap SecretaryGerry Murrayhandicaps@cartonhousemembers.com
Inter Club Co-OrdinatorKillian O'Flynninterclub@cartonhousemembers.com
Junior ConvenorAustin Boylejuniors@cartonhousemembers.com
Social SecretaryAdrian Murphysocial@cartonhousemembers.com
CommunicationsPaul Mimnaghmensclub@cartonhousemembers.com
Ex OfficioPat Doylemensclub@cartonhousemembers.com
Ordinary MemberAdrian Guckian
Ordinary MemberAlan Leavy
Ordinary MemberPauric O'Leary

January 2022 Minutes

Minutes Men’s Club Committee Meeting, 10th January


Attendees Present: 
Jason Totos (guest and present for initial update to committee), Pat Doyle, Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, Tom Healy, John Ennis, Paul Mullarkey, Seamus Thompson, Paul Mimnagh, Vinnie Lyons, Martin Duncan, Gerry Murray 
Not Present: TJ Kelly, Ronan Heavey, Steve Greenwood 

Agenda:
(1) Carton House update (2) Secretary update 

(3) Reports: Competitions 

(4) Reports: WHS & Handicaps 

(5) Reports: Finance 

(6) Reports: Social 

(7) Reports: Interclub 

(8) Reports: Juniors 

(9) Communications: Next planned 

(10) AOB 

Carton Updates 

  • 14 new members joining for 2022 so far. 
  • Projects for 2022 being confirmed right now with the owners 
  • Compressor issues resolved this week 
  • Upgrade happening to the vaulted lounge. It will continue to be a take away service primarily but will have seating inside now for members to use 
  • New buggy fleet due in April 
  • New sand bags were ordered and due in this week. Will go back out on the first tee boxes 
  • Paul Mullarkey raised the degradation of the surface on the O’Meara should be monitored ahead of next season. Especially after the conditions last week. A higher level of divots on the courses and it should be noted in the next comms, in addition to emphasise use of the sandbags to help repair the course 

Monthly Reports - Secretary (Allen Corcoran) 

  • Golf Ireland Leinster branch AGM scheduled for Jan 26th
  • Survey plans. 
  • Survey questions completed now and the goal is to get it out to members in the coming week after a series of test runs with the committee. The goal will be to have results back and compiled by the end of January.
  • All committee members asked to start preparing their annual reports for the AGM.
  • Communication of the AGM to go out to the membership this week and a paper notification to be posted on a notice board in Carton on/before next weekend


Monthly Reports - WHS & Handicaps (Gerry Murray)

  • New members announced to the committee

Monthly Reports - Competitions (Tom Healy)
  • Continue to look and assess alternate systems to Clubv1
  • Tom Healy confirmed all prize credits for winners in 2021 competitions now allocated, including the mathplays which ran into December before completing.
  • Committee agreed we need to ask Carton to rename the MOBs slots on Monday as something like ‘Mens Seniors / MOBs’ to secure the slots as mens club slots even though the competition itself is independently run


Monthly Reports - Finance (Seamus Thompson)

  • Accounts almost ready for submission to accountants.
  • Good progress was made this week with the Carton Finance team. The last updates due from the committee leads in various areas to completion. On track to have completed ahead of AGM


Monthly Reports - Comms (Martin Duncan)

  • Martin to get out an update to members with regards to plans for remaining prize giving for 2021 events. It was agreed to now target the Captains drive in as the best event to present last year's remaining trophies and medals.

Monthly Reports - Interclub

  • Martin Duncan issued minutes to Allen of the November interclub get together. Allen will forward to the committee tomorrow and a number of the discussed initiatives to be reviewed and started as soon as possible ahead of the new interclub season.
  • Registration for Interclub team for 2022 due out from Golf Ireland this week


AOB

  • Several amendments are being actively worked through the constitution to cater for 5 day members. These amendments are being prepared currently for inclusion at the AGM for ratification. Allen Corcoran and John Ennis preparing.
  • Keith Egan and Marc Boucher have both being successful in getting onto the international squad for 2022 and will have their levies waived to the men's club.
  • Succession of committee members for 2022 discussed and ongoing. 3 new nominations ratified by the committee:
    Austin Boyle,  Killian O'Flynn, Seamus Lynch

February 2022 Minutes

Minutes Men’s Club Committee Meeting, 7th February

Attendees Present:
Jason Totos (guest and present for initial update to committee), Pat Doyle, Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, John Ennis, Paul Mullarkey, Seamus Thompson, Paul Mimnagh, Vinnie Lyons, Martin Duncan, Gerry Murray,TJ Kelly, Ronan Heavey, Steve Greenwood

Not Present:
Tom Healy

Agenda
(1) Carton House update
(2) Secretary update
(3) Reports: Competitions
(4) Reports: WHS & Handicaps
(5) Reports: Finance
(6) Reports: Social
(7) Reports: Interclub
(8) Reports: Juniors
(9) Communications: Next planned
(10) AOB

Carton Updates

  • Renewals. About 30 not renewing and remaining 40 to be confirmed yet
  • 5 people have currently signed up for 5 day members
  • 30 new members joining for 2022 so far
  • Carriage House going back to 7 day. Jason planning to send out a details communication in coming week with this and other updates
  • Tee times moved to 8:30 as requested and will move earlier as light permits


Monthly Reports - Secretary (Allen Corcoran)
  • All AGM pre reads including reports, financials, minutes have been issued on the website
  • Communication of the AGM has gone out to the membership last week
  • Renewed a monthly licence for GotoWebinar for the virtual AGM
  • Allen asked that all committee members who were presenting and were comfortable to do so, be in physical attendance in the room for the AGM presentation

Monthly Reports - WHS & Handicaps (Gerry Murray)
  • 24 New members announced to the committee
  • Gerry has been in contact with the Newlands captain who just went through a complete golf systems change in 2021. He has offered to share their lessons learned on their experience

Monthly Reports - Competitions
  • Diary now fixed.
  • Brian Cunningham is now generating an electronic version of the diary for members to download to their calendars. Will aim to get compiled and delivered before the end of Feb.


Monthly Reports - Finance (Seamus Thompson)
  • Accounts draft will be updated tomorrow on the website with the final set of accounts. Can now also add team breakdowns additionally to the final draft
  • Seamus is eager to bring about new processes for expenses across the club and organise monthly reviews with the new Carton finance team. This will be an initiative brought forward to the new incoming committee.

Monthly Reports - Interclub
Killian O’Flynn and TJ have entered the following teams into interclubs this year and are now in the process of beginning recruitment of managers. 

NOTE: Straffan Cup not yet open

  • Senior Cup
  • Junior Cup
  • Metropolitan Cup
  • Barton Shield
  • Barton Cup
  • Jimmy Bruen Shield
  • Pierce Purcell Shield
  • All Ireland Four Ball
  • Fred Perry
  • Duggan Cup
  • Straffan Cup *
  • Mixed Foursomes
  • Boys Interclub
  • Boys Fred Daly
  • Boys Foursomes
  • Boys U15 Leinster

Reset passwords and create new committee users to be coordinated with Allen and TJ post the AGM next week


AOB

  • Bursary scheme for 2022 to be reviewed (Captain Pat and Seamus Thompson to review with John Ennis)
  • Updated proposal to be brought forward to the next committee meeting
  • Conor Stone Request
  • Conor plans to play his first full year in the EDGA series of events, 3 of those on the schedule will require qualification, the European team championships and then the possible European Tour Co Sanctioned Events. He has a realistic shot at representing Ireland in the European Team Championships
  • Committee to review as part of also reviewing the bursary scheme, how they might be able to support Conor in his year

March 2022 Minutes

Meeting Date: March 14th 2022. Time: 7.00pm
Venue: Leinster Boardroom– Carton House

Attendees Present:
Jason Totos (guest and present for initial update to committee), Pat Doyle, Sheamus Considine, John Ennis, Seamus Thompson, Paul Mimnagh, Gerry Murray, Seamus Lynch, Killian O’Flynn, Adrian Murphy, Adrian Guckian, Austin Boyle, Padraic O’Leary

Not Present: Allen Corcoran, Alan Leavy

Carton Updates 

Jason outlined some expected changes to the entrance gates which will provide more security for members, and guests. He was also very hopeful that news on the 2022 capital expenditure plan could be presented soon – already John Plummer was very happy that he had the go ahead for replacement machinery for the course. White tees would be available for the Drive In. New Bag Tags, and renewal packs could be ready for the Captains Drive in also. A new approach to the fescue grass maintenance is being trialed. He also announced Colm Breen was leaving and the committee expresses their thanks to Colm and wished him well in his new endeavours.


Captain’s Drive In

Adrian Murphy presented the plans for the day and announced also that some music had been arranged for the Carriage House as players arrived back in from golf. Drive in is scheduled for 10.30am on March 26th and AM explained the timesheet was filling up nicely.

Competitions

Seamus Lynch introduced some new competition rules and arrangements, announced the resumption of the foresome matchplay event, and presented some changes to the prize fund distribution. These changes will be posted to the member’s website. SL also announced that he will create a new 9 hole strokes competition when daylight allows it for Tuesday or Thursday evenings.


Finances 

Seamus Thompson outlined the proposed 2022 budget for income and expenditure – an increase in prize fund distribution was noted-  brought about by creating more categories (5 versus 4) and a new senior’s prize (for over over 60’s) category


New Software Project

Killian O’ Flynn gave a brief update on the subcommittee meeting which is discussing possible changes from Club V1 to a new software solution. This group will meet on a regular basis to consider all elements required and bring their findings back to the committee.


Handicaps

Gerry Murray informed the meeting that there were 10 new applications for membership of the Mens’ Club – he will also arrange when daylight extends into the evening that the social evenings for new members will be introduced – Alan Leavy and Paul Mimnagh will assist.


Course convener

A new role – Course Convenor was suggested by Captain Sheamus Considine who would liaise with John Plummer along with Jason Totos. Padraic O’Leary agreed to accept this role which will help us to understand the various programmes for each course and allow more information flow to the membership.


AOB

It was agreed that a review should be undertaken on the Bursary Scheme to ensure it was still fit for purpose.

Next Meeting date is set for April 11th at 19.00 hrs.


April 2022 Minutes

April 11th 2022 Minutes
Venue: Leinster Boardroom – Carton House


Attendees Present: Jason Totos (guest and present for initial update to committee), Allen Corcoran, Pat  Doyle, Sheamus Considine, John Ennis, Seamus Thompson, Paul  Mimnagh, Gerry Murray, Seamus Lynch, Adrian Murphy. 

Apologies from : Austin Boyle, Adrian Guckian, Padraic  O’Leary, Killian O Flynn 

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates  Jason Totos confirmed that all the member packs are now available for  collection in the Pro Shop. The hollow coring/sanding of the greens was  now complete and would yield benefits in the coming season. Other  maintenance work (.e.g. painting of half way houses) would be  completed soon. The registration of all buggies (Fairmont and residents)  has now been completed. European Tour Design will complete a survey  of the courses and that report might lead to some design changes in the  future. The Committee discussed with Jason various suggestions how  members could be asked to help maintain the courses including sand  bags, divot replacements and signage and Jason took that feedback  away 

Jason also reported that the warm up area opening in two weeks after a  planned exercise of verti-draining is completed to improve drainage.

2) Interclub Teams 

Killian reported by email that a total of 16 teams had been entered from  Carton House with the senior cup team kicking off on May 8th against  Stackstown. More than 120 members have expressed an interest in  participating. He still needs managers for the Barton Cup and  Metropolitan Trophy teams. Paul to put out a comms on this. 

A general discussion took place about the need to replace the purple shirt for interclub teams. It was agreed that the team colours should  migrate to a blue soft collar shirt and this could be matched up with the  current black jacket, and a grey trousers. Jason will undertake to try to  have these in place for the start of the inter club campaign. 

3) Software Project 

A discussion on this topic was deferred. Allen Corcoran undertook to  arrange a meeting of the various parties involved and to meet in  advance of our committee meeting and prepare a report on the scope  and steps in this project 

4) Finances  

Seamus Thompson announced that the reconciliation of the  income/expenditure between Fairmont and the Men’s club would be  completed within 2 weeks. 

He also reported that the invoice for Golf  Ireland fees had been received and there was a small discrepancy  between their numbers (men and ladies combined) and our own count – he would try to resolve before the next meeting. 

5) Competitions 

Seamus Lynch reviewed the Captain’s Drive in and especially the open  draw format and all agreed it was a very successful format and might be used again in the future esp. if the new software allowed. 

He also  reported that he was in consultation with Jason about the Vice Captains  prize to optimise the number of golfers who could participate. Friday  afternoon would be used for golfers with that flexibility. There was strong demand for the weekend competitions and a close watch would be kept  to ensure that all golfers could participate. 

Matchplay draws have been made and will be posted on line. 

6) Juniors 

Austin Boyle had reported by email that there was very little activity but  that in May their busy agenda for the season would kick off. 

7) Handicaps 

Gerry Murray informed the meeting that there were 3 new applications  for membership of the Mens’ Club. Gerry also reported that Joe Lavin  had agreed to replace John Ennis on the handicap sub-committee. 

8) Communications 

Paul Mimnagh was congratulated on the prompt response to requests  for various communications to be sent out and all agreed that 1 or 2  comms per week was probably the ideal. Paul also informed the meeting  about the new member evenings – the BRS time slots are now open for  the evenings of May 3, May 17 and May 31. 

9) AOB 

The Bursary Scheme has been reviewed and Paul Mullarkey had agreed  to act as the administrator of the scheme. A limit of 5k Euro was agreed  for this financial year and if expenses presented were higher than that – a proportionate cut would be put in place to stay within the limit. 

Allen Corcoran asked committee members to review the member  website and let him have updates to reflect the various changes that had  taken place  

Next Meeting date is set for May 9th at 19.00 hrs.

May 2022 Minutes

May 9th 2022 Minutes

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, John Ennis, Seamus Thompson, Paul Mimnagh, Gerry Murray, Seamus Lynch, Adrian Murphy. Killian O’Flynn, Alan Leavy

Apologies from : Pat Doyle, Padraic O’Leary, Jason Totos

The Minutes of the meeting held on April 11th were accepted. Proposer Sheamus Considine and Seconded by Allen Corcoran.

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Since Jason was not present, there was no update from Carton House/Fairmont – Gerry Murray did inform the meeting that the owner John Mullen was present at Carton during the previous week.
Hopefully he or a representative can be present for the President’s Prize weekend.

2) Communications
Paul Mimnagh that his regular communications were being sent to over 600 members and being opened by about 450 members. He will include some information about teams performances in the future – but it was acknowledged that the content was very informative and helpful – especially for new members. He will endeavour to send a substantial comms. out towards end of each week and other shorter
ones as the occasion demanded.

3) Interclub Teams
Killian O’Flynn gave a very comprehensive report on the various teams who were in action already or in preparation. His action plan was welcomed by the committee and was a very good template for the current year but also for future successful entries. At present he reckoned there were more than 150 members involved and he was especially mindful that any members who did not make final selection for 1 team could be considered for other teams if eligible. 150 out of 600 members was considered a very strong representation involved in teams. Recent success for the Seniors was noted although the All Ireland fourball tasted defeat v K Club. There were some very late withdrawals from this team which may not have helped and it was
hoped this could be avoided in the future.


4) Software Project Update
Killian O’Flynn explained that the sub-committee had a meeting arranged for Tuesday to kick off the task.

5) Finances
Seamus Thompson reported that some good work had been done on reconciling affairs between Fairmont and the Men’s Club and would come to a conclusion during next week. In the meantime an interim payment had been received from Fairmont. There had been some payments made recently to Golfing Ireland for memberships and also
for team entries.


6) Men’s Away Trips
Discussion then ensued with Adrian Murphy who hopes to organise a day trip to Baltray in Co. Louth with a bus trip starting from Carton House. More details later.

The committee established a protocol covering official Men’s Club Away trips. A clear separation was made between official Carton House Men’ Club trips and away trips which might be organised privately by members. The committee sanctioned events should take into account the clubs purpose and charter at all times. It was agreed that the secretary should inform anyone running unofficial trips to ensure adherence to this new guideline.


7) Proposed Council Meeting
It was agreed that a Council meeting be arranged asap with the other constituents to discuss various matters of importance. It was noted that the Ladies Club had an interest as well in this happening. The Captain will arrange this with Jason at a suitable time for all.


8) Handicaps
Gerry Murray reported that 6 new members and 2 new corporates had applied since last meeting. He explained also that Club V1 still has difficulties aligning players who already have another club handicap with the Carton House member number and frequently it meant a manual adjustment - otherwise the new member will be treated as an away member.


9) Competitions
Seamus Lynch reported on competitions explaining all was running smoothly and that the extra times in the morning would be welcome. He will look at running a fourball and foresome competition some weekend to all members compete in that format. He reported that opening up the times early on Friday for the Vice Captains Prize meant that all those times were taken up – thereby reducing the pressure for Saturday times.


10) Juniors
Austin Boyle told the meeting that a full programme was now underway for juniors with some noteworthy performances for some juniors in representative events. There is now an agreement with the Junior girls section that some joint events with Junior boys would open up for those girls with advanced handicaps.

11) AOB
Allen Corcoran asked all to bring to his attention any updates they need on the website or changes where information is not current.

Allen Corcroan also informed that there was also a need to organise an awards presentation for many of the competitions held during Covid. This has been set for Friday, June 10th.

Alan Leavy is checking our GDPR policy that may need to be updated in relation to Golf Ireland directives.

Austin Boyle also brought to the meeting’s attention issues that may need to be addressed re Junior players where the parent is no longer a member.

Next Meeting date is set for June 13th at 19.00 hrs.

June 2022 Minutes

Meeting held in person, June 13th 2022.

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, John Ennis, Seamus Thompson, , Seamus Lynch, Pat Doyle, Adrian Guckian, Adrian Murphy, Killian O’Flynn, Alan Leavy, Austin Boyle

Apologies from:
Padraic O Leary, Paul Mimnagh, Gerry Murray

The Minutes of the meeting held on May 9th were accepted. Proposer Sheamus Considine and Seconded by Allen Corcoran.

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Jason Totos informed the meeting that applications for membership had now closed. He also indicated that the preparation of the pantry area was now almost complete and would be opening soon. He explained that there was a pump issue at the toilets on the 9th O’ Meara which he hoped would be repaired very soon.On the courses side, he expected that new range equipment, distance ,markers and new course furniture would arrive shortly and that a group from European Tour Design would be present in early July to consider suitable changes to the course design to assist with future proofing the course.

2) Interclub Teams
Killian O’Flynn gave a very comprehensive report on the various teams who were in action already or in preparation. Some very good results overall and more team wins compared to losses – it augurs well. Many of the teams are back in action in the immediate future. Everyone wished Killian and his teams well. 

There was a complaint which Killian drew to the attention of the committee. A complaint has been received from a member of the club relating to the All-Ireland Fourball competition. The complainant requested that the committee investigate the circumstances whereby the club conceded a game in a match against the K-Club. The premise of the complaint is that the complainant had expressed an interest in playing in the competition and would have been available to play if asked. A preliminary investigation found that one of the five games in the match had been conceded due to the illness of a player on match day. The manager was unable to secure a suitable replacement within the required timeframe. The complainant would not have been a suitable replacement because the combined handicap of the two players would have exceeded the competition regulations. The overall match was lost 4-1. As such, the conceded match did not determine the final outcome. The lessons learned include that the selected team and reserves should be notified at least three days before the match and that unselected players should also be notified about the team selection. These lessons will be incorporated into the end-of-season report for inter-club competitions, in addition, they shall be notified to team managers with team still active in this year’s completion.

3) Software Project Update
Killian O’Flynn explained that the work was ongoing on this important task, that the subcommittee assigned had met up in the past month and that he hoped to have report back for next meeting.

4) Finances
Seamus Thompson reported that some good progress had been made on the reconciliation between Fairmount and Carton Mens Club and also that a down payment had already been received. He indicated that a conclusion would be forthcoming in the near future.

5) Men’s Away Trips
Adrian Murphy confirmed that a trip had been arranged for June 24th to County Louth golf club and he expected that up to 32 players would make the trip.

6) Proposed Council Meeting
The Captain will arrange this with Jason at a suitable time for all.

7) Handicaps
Gerry Murray in his absence sent in a report which indicated that 10 new applications for membership had been received since the last meeting and accepted by Fairmount. They have been added to the member list.

8) Competitions
Seamus Lynch reported on competitions explaining all was running smoothly.

9) Juniors
Austin Boyle reported that the Junior programme was running well with some good results being posted. With the holiday season now upcoming, he expected a big increase in activity.

10) AOB
Allen Corcoran asked all to bring to his attention any updates they need on the website or changes where information is not current.

Alan Leavy is checking our GDPR policy that may need to be updated in relation to Golf Ireland directives. A sub group agreed to meet in the coming month on his findings.

Next Meeting date is set for July 11th at 19.00 hrs.

July 2022 Minutes

Meeting held on July 11th 2022

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, John Ennis, Seamus Lynch, Pat Doyle, Adrian Guckian, Padraic O’ Leary, Adrian Murphy, Killian O’Flynn, Paul Mimnagh

Apologies from : Gerry Murray, Alan Leavy, Seamus Thompson, Austin Boyle

The Minutes of the meeting held on June 13th were accepted by all. Proposer Sheamus Considine and Seconded by Allen Corcoran.

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Jason Totos informed the meeting that a group from European Tour Design had visited the courses last week with a brief to recommend changes if desired to the courses. A report will be presented to Fairmont and the owners. It is expected that some work will begin on the courses within the next month or so. Jason indicated that there were some staff shortages on the course team and this was presenting some difficulties to the course team. The present environment was also proving difficult to replenish staff members.

He is expecting some new flags for the range and other course furniture in the near future – all supplies were suffering from the shipping and transport worldwide issues. They expect also to carry out repairs and painting to the halfway houses in the near future.


2) Proposed Council Meeting
Captain Sheamus Considine explained that it was the intention to request a council meeting in the near future and there was pressure as well for this from the Ladies Club.

3) Courses Update
Padraic O Leary explained that the proposed meeting this month with John Plummer had not been possible and he was working on a new date.

4) Interclub Teams
Killian O’ Flynn reported that the senior team was still involved in their campaign and would play Grange in the next round on Sunday 17th in Carton House at 2pm. He asked for as much support as possible in this section decider. Apart from the juniors all other teams had now bowed out of their respective events.

5) Handicap report
Gerry Murray was absent but had reported by email that there were no immediate issues on the handicap side at present. He also informed there were no new members added to the Mens Club since the last meeting.

6) Software Project update
Killian O Flynn informed the meeting that ongoing meetings of the sub- committee were continuing and over the 3- 4 months the work would be complete and a recommendation made to the committee.

7) Communications
Paul Mimnagh reported that approx. 2 comms per week were being sent out and there were no issues for the committee review in this area.

8) Finance report
Since Seamus Thompson was not able to be at the meeting there was no financial report to consider.

9) Competition Report
Seamus Lynch reported that all matchplays were proceeding on time and there was nothing for the committee to consider in this area at present. Seamus also asked the committee to approve informing winners / runners up and other prize winners that they could collect their prizes from the Pro shop rather than wait on some social occasion in the future. This was approved.

10) Juniors Report
Since Austin Boyle was unable to be at the meeting there was nothing to discuss in this area

11) AOB
The secretary reported that he had received a letter from a member who complained about the state of the bunkers on both courses during his recent play. The committee agreed with his assessment that it was below the level expected and although staff absences were the probable cause it was an issue that would be tabled and discussed with the General Manager and greenkeeper. Frequently staff shortages meant that the bunkers were not raked properly before rounds in the morning – even on competition days. The member had suggested that the committee investigate “adopt a bunker” by individual members but it was felt that this was not appropriate for a proprietor owned course and instead a regular communication should be sent to members asking them to rake properly after their shot(s) and leave the bunker in the state they would like to experience if they entered the bunker next. The secretary was asked to respond to this member after the meeting.

The secretary also commended Adrian Murphy for the very successful away trip to Co. Louth golf club which he had organised. It should become a regular feature of our diary since both course and food offered were both top class.

Adrian informed the meeting that he would follow up. He was also in the process of organising the committee away trip to Strandhill and Rosses Point and he would begin the process of deposit collection in the near future.

Allen Corcoran informed the meeting that following our previous committee meeting, where Carton agreed to take some input from members into the workshop with EGD on the courses, a focus group of 3 male and 3 lady members was quickly created and met the following week, led by Adrian Guckian. The outcome of their meeting was a short report which was issued to Jason and Jason did present the members findings to EGD and that it was met with positively by EGD and Fairmont.

Allen Corcoran asked all to bring to his attention any updates they need on the website or changes where information is not current.He also explained that Alan Leavy is checking our GDPR policy that may need to be updated in relation to Golf Ireland directives. He and Alan Leavy had met with Jason in early July and that the primary outcome was to present our findings and recommendations for change to the person in charge of GDPR policy at Fairmont – who apparently has now left the hotel and a new person is to be appointed.

Next Meeting date is set for August 9th at 19.00 hrs.

August 2022 Minutes

Aug 9th 2022

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Seamus Thompson, John Ennis, Pat Doyle, Killian O’Flynn, Paul Mimnagh, Gerry Murray

Apologies from: Allen Corcoran, Adrian Murphy, Alan Leavy, Austin Boyle, Adrian Guckian, Padraic O Leary, Seamus Lynch

The Minutes of the meeting held on July 11th were accepted by all. Proposer Pat Doyle and Seconded by Sheamus Considine

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Captain Sheamus Considine reported that he had spoken to Martin Mangan and that some work had already taken place on the bunkers on holes 4,7,11,13 and 17 and that porous concrete had been laid into those bunkers with other drainage work and edge trimming. Other work will be proposed to the owners from European Tour Design in their report in about 2 weeks and then decisions on the work and timetable will be made

2) Proposed Council Meeting
Captain Sheamus Considine explained that it was the intention to request a council meeting in the near future with a defined agenda and there was pressure as well for this from the Ladies Club.

3) Courses Update
Padraic O Leary was not present but the meeting was made aware that the proposed meeting this month with John Plummer had not been possible.

4) Interclub Teams
Killian O’ Flynn reported that the senior team had won the Leinster South pennant and would be competing in the All Ireland’s in Tramore in early September. This was a great achievement and hopefully they can go on and win the All Ireland. The Fred Daly and Boys team had also reached their respective finals which will be herd in Ballina.

5) Handicap report
Gerry Murray reported that there were no immediate issues on the handicap side at present. He also informed there were no new members added to the Mens Club since the last meeting. He was under the impression that Fairmont had closed off new member applications.

6) Software Project update
Killian O Flynn informed the meeting that ongoing meetings of the subcommittee were continuing and over the next 3- 4 months the work would be complete and a recommendation made to the committee.

7) Communications
Paul Mimnagh reported that approx. 28 comms had gone out over a 13 week period = an average of over 2 per week. He had been asked to check out the Carton Instagram account and who had instigated this and he will have info for the next meeting.

8) Finance report
Seamus Thompson reported that he had received some information from Fairmont on income received on behalf of the Men’s Club and was endeavouring to have that verified by the team in the Pro Shop. The entire reconciliation process with Fairmont has been difficult due to changes in personnel and Seamus was not accepting broad numbers without signature. Now that there is a new CFO appointed by Fairmont – his task hopefully would be easier. He was not prepared to sign off on issues until he had answers to his queries.

9) Competition Report
Seamus Lynch reported via email that all Scratch Cups were complete as was the Coonan Cup and that matchplays were proceeding on time and there was nothing for the committee to consider in this area at present. Captains qualifying will allow 120 members approx. to go forward to Day 2.

10) Juniors Report
Since Austin Boyle was unable to be at the meeting there was nothing to discuss in this area. He had reported in with an update which was very comprehensive.

11) Social Report
Adrian Murphy was in New York but had reported in by email with update about the negotiations for Captains Day with Fairmont. He has arranged the food menu and was acting on a recommendation from Conor Mallaghan about a 3 piece Trad band for the entertainment which will break for the presentation around 9 pm in the Carriage House.

12) AOB
A request had been received from the Ladies committee to begin a mixed matchplay event within the club to run over a short period later this year, it was felt this might be helpful to the success of the mixed interclub teams in the future and Killian O Flynn would speak to the Ladies to agree the terms of competition.

A request to consider placing a red flag over the back right of the 15th hole on O’Meara was considered and agreed to facilitate speedy play, Seb to be informed.

It was agreed that now that we have 2 boy’s teams and one senior team in the All Ireland finals that a budget for each team’s expenses should be prepared and agreed with the team manager in advance of those events

Next Meeting date is set for September 5th at 19.00 hrs.

September 2022 Minutes

September 12th 2022

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Seamus Thompson, John Ennis, Killian O’Flynn, Paul Mimnagh, Seamus Lynch Alan Leavy, Adrian Murphy, Austin Boyle, Adrian Guckian, Padraic O LearyApologies from :
Allen Corcoran, Pat Doyle, Gerry MurrayThe Minutes of the meeting held on August 9th were accepted by all.

Proposer Paul Mimnagh and Seconded by Padraic O’ Leary

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Captain Sheamus Considine reported that he understood the report from European Tour Design was now complete and was with the owners for their consideration. He also confirmed that a new Professional - Liam McCool - had been appointed to Carton House and would take up his role at the end of October 2022.

2) Proposed Council Meeting
Captain Sheamus Considine explained that it was the intention to request a council meeting in the near future with a defined agenda and this had been requested as well from the Ladies Club.

3) Courses Update
Padraic O Leary explained that he had requested a meeting with John Plummer through Martin Mangan and Seb McShane but so far no dates had been fixed.

4) Interclub Teams
Killian O’ Flynn reported that the senior team had won the Senior Cup with a great display at Tramore.


“Our club completed a fantastic double last weekend by adding victory in the Senior Cup to our recent win in the Fred Daly Trophy. A special call out goes to John Cunningham and Calum Ward who were members of both All-Ireland winning panels. The AIG Men’s Senior Cup is the ‘blue ribbon’ amateur golf tournament hosted by Golf Ireland and has been held since 1900. Carton House won this tournament for the first time in 2020 with many
players developed by our Junior section. Having won the Leinster South Region last month, this year’s team progressed to the All Ireland series in Tramore. The matches were played in mixed conditions with wind, rain and beautiful sunshine all making an appearance over the weekend.

The team would go on to record wins against Naas in the quarter-final, Tandragee in the semi-final and Cushendall in the final. Other clubs participating in this finals series included The Island, Athenry, Lee Valley and Lahinch.
Marc Boucher won two of the last three holes in his semi-final to turnaround his match and put Carton in the final. Keith Egan was called in from the 18th fairway during the semi-final but raced through his match in the final to claim first point (8&6). Darragh Flynn had a couple of tight matches before powering though the final to win 6&4 and make it 2-0. It was left for Aidan Dooley to claim the winning point in the final, with a 4&3 victory, having earlier stormed through his semi-final match. Colin Cunningham displayed all his experience to win his QF well and to build a strong lead in the final before being called in on the 14th. Paul O’Hanlon was also called in when leading and denied the chance to claim his third point of the All-Ireland series. Both Colin and Paul were on course to record equally impressive wins in their matches, with all players rising to the occasion of an All-Ireland final.

Results don’t always tell the story of matches, notably in the semi-final when three matches were level in the final stages. Similarly, selection for a team doesn’t always tell the story of competition for places, with no player certain of a pick. Players like Jack Doherty and David Muldowney contributed hugely to this victory, with strong performances throughout the year. Eoin Sullivan was another vital member of the team, as were the Fred Daly champions mentioned earlier. This team is managed by some fine players in their own right who invested significant time and effort to build a winning panel. Sean Walsh, Adam Talbot, Neil Mullarkey and Brian Cunningham made the tough calls on selection while coaching, cajoling and guiding each player expertly. 

One Carton member, Cathal MacCanna, represented his other home of Cushendall in the final. It was that club’s first appearance in the All Ireland series. Cathal played well and made both clubs proud with his display of skills and sportsmanship. 

The final word on this brilliant achievement is one of thanks to the many club members who travelled and supported the team along their path this year and in their victory. We all share the team’s joy, congratulate them and thank them for the best possible end to the domestic inter-club season 2022. The team now qualify to represent  Ireland in the European Men’s Club Trophy.”


5) Handicap report
Gerry Murray was away in Florida but reported that he had nothing to report at present. Once he is in contact with Golf Ireland he will update the committee.


6) Software Project update
Killian O Flynn informed the meeting that ongoing meetings of the sub- committee were continuing and some extra information about features in the current software had been uncovered. There were some desired elements and functions that still needed to be in place to comply with the wish list and discussions were ongoing about whether it was possible to get these in place.

7) Communications
Paul Mimnagh reported that there was no major issues on his side and his communications would continue as normal.

8) Finance report
Seamus Thompson reported that he had made some progress on the reconciliation but there was still more work to do before he had an accurate picture – the issue still being that Fairmont were presenting statements and invoices without properly identifying the users, or signatories. There was a general discussion about the process that should be followed. Seamus was happy with some elements of the procedures but suggested improvements could be made.

9) Competition Report
Seamus Lynch reported that when there was pressure on the time sheet some members had taken up space without entering the competition of the day. On occasions there may have been good reason for this but this was unfair if those times were needed by other members who wished to compete. He would keep a close eye on this and follow up to ensure times of competition were clear of casual golf.

10) Juniors Report
Austin Boyle outlined that Leon Giblin had been nominated for the position of Junior Captain and he felt that he would do a great job. The Fred Daly team had also conquered all and won the All Ireland Fred Daly trophy and this had been presented to the team during the Captain’s evening celebrations.

11) Social Report
Adrian Murphy reported that planning had already begun for the Joint Captains’s Ball which would be held on 12th November 2022. It is hoped that the Senior Cup Panel can attend so they can receive and enjoy the acknowledgements they have earned.

12) AOB
There was a discussion about the expenses for the senior team who have qualified for the European Club Trophy and it was suggested that a grant might be available from Golfing Ireland- This would be investigated and if there was a shortfall some other fundraising would be contemplated.

A motion was also agreed by the meeting unanimously that since the Secretary minutes of the meeting are normally approved at the beginning of the subsequent meeting, publication of these minutes should be postponed until they were approved by the committee.

Next Meeting date is set for October 10th at 19.30 hrs.

October 2022 Minutes

October 10th 2022 Minutes 


Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran, John Ennis, Killian O’Flynn, Paul Mimnagh, Seamus Lynch, Alan Leavy, Adrian Murphy, Pat Doyle, Gerry Murray 

Apologies from: Adrian Guckian, Padraic O Leary, Seamus Thompson, Austin Boyle 

The Minutes of the meeting held on September 12th were accepted by all. Proposer was Allen Corcoran and seconded by Paul Mimnagh.  

1) Carton / Fairmont Updates Since Jason Totos has already left and Liam McCool has not yet taken up his position there was no report presented from Fairmont. 

2) Proposed Council Meeting Captain Sheamus Considine outlined the topics that he would present to Martin Mangan when the council met. 

3) Courses Update 
Since Padraic O Leary was absent from the meeting there was no course update report. 

4) Interclub Teams 

Killian O’ Flynn reported there all interclub activity had now come to an end for the year.

5) Handicap report 

GM advised that the handicap committee has commenced work on the Annual Handicap Review (AHR). Whilst guidance on the AHR process is awaited from Golf Ireland, it’s unlikely to vary much from 2021. The review is expected to be completed by the end of November.

6) Software Project update 

Killian O Flynn informed the group had a review meeting recently and discussed answers to the questions they posed to the software providers. They remain convinced that a change will only be recommended when software with a significant advantage and one which covered all existing functions was proven. It may take some more time and perhaps some discussions with other clubs who have
bedded in the software before that point is reached. 

7) Communications

Paul Mimnagh reported that there was no major issues on his side and his communications would continue as normal. He expected that with the golf schedule (teams and competitions) moving into the quieter period – less comms would be needed for the rest of the year. 

8) Finance report 

Seamus Thompson was not present but had reported by email that some more progress had been made with Fairmont on reconciliations and that some of the members subs have now been received. More work with the new Finance team from Fairmont would be required. 

9) Competition Report 

Seamus Lynch reported that the club matchplay competitions were proceeding on schedule. He also felt that the demand for competition spots was largely being met at present but he would continue to monitor this, especially as we begin to lose some light in the mornings and evenings. He also intended to review the prize structure and also the concept of deducting points for prizewinners over the Winter period to ensure fairness.

10) Juniors Report 

Austin Boyle was not present and there was no report on Juniors to consider. 

11) Social Report 

Adrian Murphy reported that planning had advanced for the Joint Captains’ Ball which would be held on 12th November 2022 and he was in contact with Fairmont and also the Ladies Club. It is hoped that the Senior Cup Panel and perhaps the Fred Daly panel can attend so they can receive and enjoy the acknowledgements they have earned.
Adrian also asked the committee to consider celebrating the 20th anniversary of the opening of Carton House Golf during the joint Captains’ Ball. 

12) AOB 

Adrian Murphy reported that Golf Ireland had agreed that a grant of 3000 Euro would be made to Carton House Mens Club to help defray the travelling and boarding expenses for the team of 3 players and 1 manager for the European Club Trophy in Portugal later this month. 

The participation of a team in the Leinster Senior Alliance for 2022/2023 was agreed with a budget which had been submitted by Tony McDonagh and approved by the committee.

Next Meeting date is set for November 7th at 19.30 hrs.

Nov 2022 Minutes

November 7th 2022 Minutes

Attendees Present:
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran John Ennis, Killian O’Flynn, Paul Mimnagh, Seamus Lynch, Adrian Murphy, Pat Doyle, Austin Boyle Seamus Thompson


Apologies from :
Adrian Guckian, Padraic O’Leary, Alan Leavy, Gerry Murray
The Minutes of the meeting held on September 12th were accepted by all. 

Proposer was Allen Corcoran and seconded by Paul Mimnagh.


1) Carton / Fairmont Updates
Liam McCool joined the meeting for his first time and represented Carton House. Allen Corcoran mentioned that the Men’s Club needed to liase/ agree a protocol to ensure GDPR was being safeguarded and perhaps a joint effort with Fairmont was the best way forward. Liam explained that the owners would be present later this week and some outstanding decisions would be taken. Liam was also asked to clarify the current member discount in the Bar and Pro shop and also the protocol surrounding the issue of service charge and if this is still an optional charge for members.
Killian asked that Liam look into the drop zone for the 15th (long right balls in the water: we need to clarify from where they should continue play).

2) Proposed Council Meeting
Captain Sheamus Considine reported on the successful Council meeting with Martin Mangan –Carton House Hotel Manager – who promised to ensure more communication from Fairmont with the Club members and also news re the new subscription amounts for 2023.

3) Courses Update
Since Padraic O Leary was absent from the meeting there was no course update report.

4) Interclub Teams
Killian O’ Flynn reported there all interclub activity had now come to an end for the apart from the Leinster Alliance and this comp is now underway.

5) Handicap report
GM advised by email he was still awaiting guidance from Golf Ireland on the AHR process. The review is still expected to be completed by the end of November.

6) Software Project update
Seamus Lynch informed the group had a live trial of electronic scoring recently and he was happy with the outcome although he expected some teething trouble on the first occasions. He suggested that a trial during the Autumn league might be worthwhile to get members more familiar with what was involved.

7) Communications
Paul Mimnagh reported that there was no major issues on communications.

8) Finance report
Seamus Thompson reported that in recent meetings he had been able progress outstanding issues with Fairmont on reconciliations. He hoped to bring these final issues to a conclusion by the next meeting and may try to agree a process with Fairmont to ensure that 2023 would not present any re-occurrence of these issues.

Seamus also explained that we might need to consider the Men’s Club subscription for 2023 – the level of price inflation was significant during 2022 – he would know more before the next meeting convened.

9) Competition Report
Seamus Lynch reported that the club matchplay competitions were now complete.
He has reviewed and made changes to the prize structure and also the concept of deducting points for prizewinners over the Winter period to ensure fairness. Short courses are now in play for Winter.

10) Juniors Report
Austin Boyle reported no issues re Juniors to consider.


11) Social Report
Adrian Murphy reported that planning was almost compete for the Joint Captains’ Ball which would be held on 12th November 2022 and he was in contact with Fairmont and also the Ladies Club. He discussed the running order for the limited number of speakers and various presentations for the night. Sheamus to check if Martin Mangan wished to speak during the event.

12) AOB
Allen Corcoran suggested that January 31st 2023 might be the best evening for the AGM – and no objections were forthcoming.


The meeting also reaffirmed the procedure for allowing the committee (in session) to review and accept the previous meeting minutes before they are publicized on the website.

Next Meeting date is set for December 12th at 19.30 hrs in the Lady Granville room at Carton House.

Dec 2022 Minutes

December 12th 2022 Minutes


Attendees Present: 
Sheamus Considine, Allen Corcoran John Ennis, Killian O’Flynn, Austin Boyle, Seamus Thompson, Adrian Guckian, Padraic O’Leary, Alan Leavy, Gerry Murray

Apologies from:Paul Mimnagh, Seamus Thompson, Adrian Murphy and Pat Doyle

The Minutes of the meeting held on November 7th were accepted,  Proposer was Sheamus Considine and seconded by Allen Corcoran.


Carton / Fairmont Updates 

Liam McCool was unable to join the meeting but he had reported in advance that he had agreed with Martin Mangan from Fairmont that a council meeting would be held once per quarter with Martin, Liam and John Plummer representing Fairmont while The Mens Club and Ladies Club would be represented by the Captain, Vice-Captain and Secretary from each section. Dates to be fixed as soon as possible.

Courses Update

Padraic O Leary reported no updates or issues re the golf courses 

Interclub Teams

Killian O’ Flynn reported there all interclub activity had now come to an end apart from the Leinster Alliance where the most recent match v Black Bush fell fowl of the elements.

Handicap report

GM reported that the Annual Handicap Review had been completed and accepted by Golf Ireland. 

Where changes were made to individual handicaps, the members were informed by letter (via email) on November 29th. The letters included a link to the Golf Ireland handicap appeal mechanism.

In the course of conducting the AHR, the handicap committee studied the Golf Ireland Competition v General Play report. The committee had concerns about a small number of cases where members' general play rounds outnumbered competition scores.  The handicap committee understands that Enniscrone GC requires that, for its members to win club competitions, competition scores should outnumber general play rounds. The committee considered this to be a good policy and agreed that it should apply in Carton.

Policy on past-members seeking to re-join the Men's Club

GM enquired about the policy for dealing with applications from past members to rejoin the Men's Club. The committee agreed that such applications require a completed application form processed in the same manner as for new members.

Software Project update

Killian O’ Flynn informed that the group had not met since the last meeting but updates would be available for the next meeting.

Communications

Paul Mimnagh was not present and there was no report on communications.

Finance report

Seamus Thompson was not present but he had reported that some progress had been made in relation to the reconciliation of accounts with Fairmont but more responses to his queries were still outstanding.

In relation to the men’s club fee for 2024, a discussion was held and some preparation work will be carried out before the final fee can be suggested for the AGM. Fairmont costs had escalated and it was important that the Mens Club would be run without a deficit. Final proposal will be ready for the January meeting.

Competition Report

Seamus Lynch reported that the Autumn League was now complete and he also has all the salvers and medals ready for presentation. 

He has done some work on the split of prize money and this draft was made available to all for their review before the next meeting where a decision could be made in advance of the new season commencing.

Juniors  Report

Austin Boyle reported no issues re Juniors to consider. He had considered and decided against attending a new Home Countries finals tournament which had been aimed at the Fred Daly team which was to be held in Cheshire.  

Social Report

Adrian Murphy reported by email that about 150 guests had attended the Joint Captains Ball in Carton House and the evening was a great success – all comments were very favourable in relation to the food, music, organisation and the evening was enjoyed by all.

The social golf outing had to be postponed due to bad weather but would be re- arranged – hopefully for January 28th

AOB

John Ennis noted that the AGM for 2022 would be held on January 31st in the Kildare Suite and he asked that those committee members with reports to present begin their preparations in advance.

Communication with Liam McCool was ongoing in relation to GDPR policy and member renewal forms. He expected renewal invoices to be sent out this week.


The next committee meeting is scheduled for January 9th at 7.30pm in Carton House.


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